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Bug#941060: chromium: When will the upgrade to v77 reach debian?
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jim_p
2019-09-24 06:30:01 UTC
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Package: chromium
Version: 76.0.3809.100-1
Severity: minor
Tags: upstream

Chromium 77 was released 2 weeks ago (Sept 10th) and it has not reached the
repos yet. Since then, it has also received a minor update, from 77.0.xxxx.75
to 77.0.xxxx.90. And in those 2 weeks, not even the source package was uploaded
to the repo, let alone a compiled one!

On top of that, you did not package the last update for v76 (76.0.xxxx.132),
while v76 was first packaged when it was in BETA! Why do you waste your time
packaging betas?

So please, stay in sync with chromium's releases, at least in the unstable
branch. I would not mind staying a bit behind, if it was not for the sites that
I visit that check the browser version and demand the latest one, e.g. my bank
only allows current versions of all the browsers, else it pops up an "update
your browser" message.

Thank you.

p.s. I would install the regular chrome, but I prefer chromium and the move
from chromium to chrome is a hussle for me.




-- System Information:
Debian Release: bullseye/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 5.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US:en (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages chromium depends on:
ii chromium-common 76.0.3809.100-1
ii libasound2 1.1.8-1
ii libatk-bridge2.0-0 2.34.0-3
ii libatk1.0-0 2.34.0-1
ii libatomic1 9.2.1-8
ii libatspi2.0-0 2.34.0-1
ii libavcodec58 10:4.2.1-dmo2
ii libavformat58 10:4.2.1-dmo2
ii libavutil56 10:4.2.1-dmo2
ii libc6 2.29-1
ii libcairo-gobject2 1.16.0-4
ii libcairo2 1.16.0-4
ii libcups2 2.3.0-3
ii libdbus-1-3 1.12.16-1
ii libdrm2 2.4.99-1
ii libevent-2.1-6 2.1.8-stable-4
ii libexpat1 2.2.7-2
ii libflac8 1.3.3-1
ii libfontconfig1 2.13.1-2+b1
ii libfreetype6 2.9.1-4
ii libgcc1 1:9.2.1-8
ii libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 2.38.1+dfsg-1
ii libglib2.0-0 2.60.6-2
ii libgtk-3-0 3.24.11-1
ii libharfbuzz0b 2.6.1-3
ii libicu63 63.2-2
ii libjpeg62-turbo 1:1.5.2-2+b1
ii libjsoncpp1 1.7.4-3+b1
ii liblcms2-2 2.9-3+b1
ii libminizip1 1.1-8+b1
ii libnspr4 2:4.21-2
ii libnss3 2:3.45-1
ii libopenjp2-7 2.3.0-2
ii libopus0 1.3-1+b1
ii libpango-1.0-0 1.42.4-7
ii libpangocairo-1.0-0 1.42.4-7
ii libpci3 1:3.6.2-2
ii libpng16-16 1.6.37-1
ii libpulse0 13.0-1
ii libre2-5 20190901+dfsg-1
ii libsnappy1v5 1.1.7-1+b1
ii libstdc++6 9.2.1-8
ii libvpx6 1.8.1-dmo1
ii libwebp6 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libwebpdemux2 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libwebpmux3 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libx11-6 2:1.6.8-1
ii libx11-xcb1 2:1.6.8-1
ii libxcb1 1.13.1-2
ii libxcomposite1 1:0.4.4-2
ii libxcursor1 1:1.2.0-2
ii libxdamage1 1:1.1.5-1
ii libxext6 2:1.3.3-1+b2
ii libxfixes3 1:5.0.3-1
ii libxi6 2:1.7.9-1
ii libxml2 2.9.4+dfsg1-7+b3
ii libxrandr2 2:1.5.1-1
ii libxrender1 1:0.9.10-1
ii libxslt1.1 1.1.32-2.1
ii libxss1 1:1.2.3-1
ii libxtst6 2:1.2.3-1
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.11.dfsg-1+b1

Versions of packages chromium recommends:
ii chromium-sandbox 76.0.3809.100-1

Versions of packages chromium suggests:
pn chromium-driver <none>
pn chromium-l10n <none>
pn chromium-shell <none>

Versions of packages chromium-common depends on:
ii x11-utils 7.7+4
ii xdg-utils 1.1.3-1

Versions of packages chromium-common recommends:
ii chromium-sandbox 76.0.3809.100-1
ii dunst [notification-daemon] 1.4.1-1
ii fonts-liberation 1:1.07.4-10
ii libgl1-mesa-dri 19.1.6-1
pn libu2f-udev <none>
ii notification-daemon 3.20.0-4
pn system-config-printer <none>
pn upower <none>

Versions of packages chromium-sandbox depends on:
ii libatomic1 9.2.1-8
ii libc6 2.29-1
ii libgcc1 1:9.2.1-8
ii libstdc++6 9.2.1-8

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jim_p
2019-10-10 06:00:03 UTC
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Package: chromium
Version: 76.0.3809.100-1
Followup-For: Bug #941060

It has been a month since the release of chromium 77 and still nothing in the
repos. Why such a big delay?
Plus, on 2 weeks max, chromium 78 will be released from upstream, so don't
bother building it.

I will probably move to chrome when 78 comes out. Thanks for nothing.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: bullseye/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 5.2.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US:en (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages chromium depends on:
ii chromium-common 76.0.3809.100-1
ii libasound2 1.1.8-1
ii libatk-bridge2.0-0 2.34.0-3
ii libatk1.0-0 2.34.0-1
ii libatomic1 9.2.1-8
ii libatspi2.0-0 2.34.0-3
ii libavcodec58 10:4.2.1-dmo3
ii libavformat58 10:4.2.1-dmo3
ii libavutil56 10:4.2.1-dmo3
ii libc6 2.29-2
ii libcairo-gobject2 1.16.0-4
ii libcairo2 1.16.0-4
ii libcups2 2.3.0-5
ii libdbus-1-3 1.12.16-2
ii libdrm2 2.4.99-1
ii libevent-2.1-6 2.1.8-stable-4
ii libexpat1 2.2.9-1
ii libflac8 1.3.3-1
ii libfontconfig1 2.13.1-2+b1
ii libfreetype6 2.9.1-4
ii libgcc1 1:9.2.1-8
ii libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 2.38.2+dfsg-1
ii libglib2.0-0 2.62.0-3
ii libgtk-3-0 3.24.12-1
ii libharfbuzz0b 2.6.2-1
ii libicu63 63.2-2
ii libjpeg62-turbo 1:1.5.2-2+b1
ii libjsoncpp1 1.7.4-3+b1
ii liblcms2-2 2.9-3+b1
ii libminizip1 1.1-8+b1
ii libnspr4 2:4.21-2
ii libnss3 2:3.45-1
ii libopenjp2-7 2.3.0-3
ii libopus0 1.3-1+b1
ii libpango-1.0-0 1.42.4-7
ii libpangocairo-1.0-0 1.42.4-7
ii libpci3 1:3.6.2-2
ii libpng16-16 1.6.37-1
ii libpulse0 13.0-2
ii libre2-5 20190901+dfsg-1
ii libsnappy1v5 1.1.7-1+b1
ii libstdc++6 9.2.1-8
ii libvpx6 1.8.1-dmo1
ii libwebp6 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libwebpdemux2 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libwebpmux3 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libx11-6 2:1.6.8-1
ii libx11-xcb1 2:1.6.8-1
ii libxcb1 1.13.1-2
ii libxcomposite1 1:0.4.4-2
ii libxcursor1 1:1.2.0-2
ii libxdamage1 1:1.1.5-1
ii libxext6 2:1.3.3-1+b2
ii libxfixes3 1:5.0.3-1
ii libxi6 2:1.7.9-1
ii libxml2 2.9.4+dfsg1-7+b3
ii libxrandr2 2:1.5.1-1
ii libxrender1 1:0.9.10-1
ii libxslt1.1 1.1.32-2.1
ii libxss1 1:1.2.3-1
ii libxtst6 2:1.2.3-1
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.11.dfsg-1+b1

Versions of packages chromium recommends:
ii chromium-sandbox 76.0.3809.100-1

Versions of packages chromium suggests:
pn chromium-driver <none>
pn chromium-l10n <none>
pn chromium-shell <none>

Versions of packages chromium-common depends on:
ii x11-utils 7.7+4
ii xdg-utils 1.1.3-1

Versions of packages chromium-common recommends:
ii chromium-sandbox 76.0.3809.100-1
ii dunst [notification-daemon] 1.4.1-1
ii fonts-liberation 1:1.07.4-10
ii libgl1-mesa-dri 19.1.6-1
pn libu2f-udev <none>
ii notification-daemon 3.20.0-4
pn system-config-printer <none>
pn upower <none>

Versions of packages chromium-sandbox depends on:
ii libatomic1 9.2.1-8
ii libc6 2.29-2
ii libgcc1 1:9.2.1-8
ii libstdc++6 9.2.1-8

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Maxime Jean
2019-10-15 01:10:02 UTC
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Give to the maintainer the respect he deserves. I really think you
doesn't understand at all how hard it is to build Chromium. How much
time it requires specialy. Personally I prefer using an awesome version
of chromium than a brand new one with a lot of bugs. In my case it's
chromium 73 with vaapi(mojo decoder) working out of the box.
jim_p
2019-10-16 07:00:03 UTC
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Package: chromium
Version: 76.0.3809.100-1
Followup-For: Bug #941060

As I have said at the beginning of the bug report, I need the latest version of
the browser because of my bank. This is the only site that literally demands
it. That is also the reason I do not use firefox esr, because it identifies as
"old" version and the site does not log me in.

Other than that, I also want my browser to be secure, and since chromium does
not have an esr version like firefox, the only way to have all the latest
security updates is to have the latest available version. And if you check
here, there are 10+ cve that are open right now that debian does not have the
latest version.

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/chromium

If you, as a user, want to stick to an older version for any reason, stick to
it, but please do not use it for serious online tasks where security is the top
concern, e.g. web banking.

Furthermore, I know how much time is required to build chromium, that is why I
complained 2 weeks after the release, because I did not expect it to be ready
on day 1 (although it usually is).

Moreover, I use chromium on windows, for the last 5+ years. I get it from a
github repo and its maintainer has never missed a single major version all
those years, although he must have missed a couple of minor ones. Assuming that
he builds it on his pc, he does a better job than debian in keeping it up to
date. And he is a single person as it seems.

Last but not least, I also refuse to use snap apps, for the well known
drawbacks they have, so I won't install it as a snap app.

I hope I answered all your questions, but feel free to ask me anything.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: bullseye/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 5.2.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US:en (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages chromium depends on:
ii chromium-common 76.0.3809.100-1
ii libasound2 1.1.8-2
ii libatk-bridge2.0-0 2.34.1-1
ii libatk1.0-0 2.34.1-1
ii libatomic1 9.2.1-8
ii libatspi2.0-0 2.34.0-3
ii libavcodec58 10:4.2.1-dmo3
ii libavformat58 10:4.2.1-dmo3
ii libavutil56 10:4.2.1-dmo3
ii libc6 2.29-2
ii libcairo-gobject2 1.16.0-4
ii libcairo2 1.16.0-4
ii libcups2 2.3.0-5
ii libdbus-1-3 1.12.16-2
ii libdrm2 2.4.99-1
ii libevent-2.1-6 2.1.8-stable-4
ii libexpat1 2.2.9-1
ii libflac8 1.3.3-1
ii libfontconfig1 2.13.1-2+b1
ii libfreetype6 2.9.1-4
ii libgcc1 1:9.2.1-8
ii libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 2.40.0+dfsg-1
ii libglib2.0-0 2.62.1-1
ii libgtk-3-0 3.24.12-1
ii libharfbuzz0b 2.6.2-1
ii libicu63 63.2-2
ii libjpeg62-turbo 1:1.5.2-2+b1
ii libjsoncpp1 1.7.4-3+b1
ii liblcms2-2 2.9-3+b1
ii libminizip1 1.1-8+b1
ii libnspr4 2:4.21-2
ii libnss3 2:3.45-1
ii libopenjp2-7 2.3.1-1
ii libopus0 1.3-1+b1
ii libpango-1.0-0 1.42.4-7
ii libpangocairo-1.0-0 1.42.4-7
ii libpci3 1:3.6.2-2
ii libpng16-16 1.6.37-1
ii libpulse0 13.0-2
ii libre2-5 20190901+dfsg-1
ii libsnappy1v5 1.1.7-1+b1
ii libstdc++6 9.2.1-8
ii libvpx6 1.8.1-dmo1
ii libwebp6 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libwebpdemux2 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libwebpmux3 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libx11-6 2:1.6.8-1
ii libx11-xcb1 2:1.6.8-1
ii libxcb1 1.13.1-2
ii libxcomposite1 1:0.4.4-2
ii libxcursor1 1:1.2.0-2
ii libxdamage1 1:1.1.5-1
ii libxext6 2:1.3.3-1+b2
ii libxfixes3 1:5.0.3-1
ii libxi6 2:1.7.9-1
ii libxml2 2.9.4+dfsg1-7+b3
ii libxrandr2 2:1.5.1-1
ii libxrender1 1:0.9.10-1
ii libxslt1.1 1.1.32-2.1
ii libxss1 1:1.2.3-1
ii libxtst6 2:1.2.3-1
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.11.dfsg-1+b1

Versions of packages chromium recommends:
ii chromium-sandbox 76.0.3809.100-1

Versions of packages chromium suggests:
pn chromium-driver <none>
pn chromium-l10n <none>
pn chromium-shell <none>

Versions of packages chromium-common depends on:
ii x11-utils 7.7+4
ii xdg-utils 1.1.3-1

Versions of packages chromium-common recommends:
ii chromium-sandbox 76.0.3809.100-1
ii dunst [notification-daemon] 1.4.1-1
ii fonts-liberation 1:1.07.4-10
ii libgl1-mesa-dri 19.2.1-1
pn libu2f-udev <none>
ii notification-daemon 3.20.0-4
pn system-config-printer <none>
pn upower <none>

Versions of packages chromium-sandbox depends on:
ii libatomic1 9.2.1-8
ii libc6 2.29-2
ii libgcc1 1:9.2.1-8
ii libstdc++6 9.2.1-8

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jim_p
2019-10-16 07:20:01 UTC
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Package: chromium
Version: 76.0.3809.100-1
Followup-For: Bug #941060

I forgot to say that I would prefer debian to have the latest version of any
browser than have the latest version of gnome/kde/whatever-desktop-enviroment-
you-use or mpv/geany/putty/whatever-app-you-use-daily and I think that it
should prioritize that over anything non-security related.

I am just mentionning it, because I also heard someone say that this month (=
September) debian updated plasma and its apps to a newer version, so there was
no time for other "inferior" packages.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: bullseye/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 5.2.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US:en (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages chromium depends on:
ii chromium-common 76.0.3809.100-1
ii libasound2 1.1.8-2
ii libatk-bridge2.0-0 2.34.1-1
ii libatk1.0-0 2.34.1-1
ii libatomic1 9.2.1-8
ii libatspi2.0-0 2.34.0-3
ii libavcodec58 10:4.2.1-dmo3
ii libavformat58 10:4.2.1-dmo3
ii libavutil56 10:4.2.1-dmo3
ii libc6 2.29-2
ii libcairo-gobject2 1.16.0-4
ii libcairo2 1.16.0-4
ii libcups2 2.3.0-5
ii libdbus-1-3 1.12.16-2
ii libdrm2 2.4.99-1
ii libevent-2.1-6 2.1.8-stable-4
ii libexpat1 2.2.9-1
ii libflac8 1.3.3-1
ii libfontconfig1 2.13.1-2+b1
ii libfreetype6 2.9.1-4
ii libgcc1 1:9.2.1-8
ii libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 2.40.0+dfsg-1
ii libglib2.0-0 2.62.1-1
ii libgtk-3-0 3.24.12-1
ii libharfbuzz0b 2.6.2-1
ii libicu63 63.2-2
ii libjpeg62-turbo 1:1.5.2-2+b1
ii libjsoncpp1 1.7.4-3+b1
ii liblcms2-2 2.9-3+b1
ii libminizip1 1.1-8+b1
ii libnspr4 2:4.21-2
ii libnss3 2:3.45-1
ii libopenjp2-7 2.3.1-1
ii libopus0 1.3-1+b1
ii libpango-1.0-0 1.42.4-7
ii libpangocairo-1.0-0 1.42.4-7
ii libpci3 1:3.6.2-2
ii libpng16-16 1.6.37-1
ii libpulse0 13.0-2
ii libre2-5 20190901+dfsg-1
ii libsnappy1v5 1.1.7-1+b1
ii libstdc++6 9.2.1-8
ii libvpx6 1.8.1-dmo1
ii libwebp6 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libwebpdemux2 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libwebpmux3 0.6.1-2+b1
ii libx11-6 2:1.6.8-1
ii libx11-xcb1 2:1.6.8-1
ii libxcb1 1.13.1-2
ii libxcomposite1 1:0.4.4-2
ii libxcursor1 1:1.2.0-2
ii libxdamage1 1:1.1.5-1
ii libxext6 2:1.3.3-1+b2
ii libxfixes3 1:5.0.3-1
ii libxi6 2:1.7.9-1
ii libxml2 2.9.4+dfsg1-7+b3
ii libxrandr2 2:1.5.1-1
ii libxrender1 1:0.9.10-1
ii libxslt1.1 1.1.32-2.1
ii libxss1 1:1.2.3-1
ii libxtst6 2:1.2.3-1
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.11.dfsg-1+b1

Versions of packages chromium recommends:
ii chromium-sandbox 76.0.3809.100-1

Versions of packages chromium suggests:
pn chromium-driver <none>
pn chromium-l10n <none>
pn chromium-shell <none>

Versions of packages chromium-common depends on:
ii x11-utils 7.7+4
ii xdg-utils 1.1.3-1

Versions of packages chromium-common recommends:
ii chromium-sandbox 76.0.3809.100-1
ii dunst [notification-daemon] 1.4.1-1
ii fonts-liberation 1:1.07.4-10
ii libgl1-mesa-dri 19.2.1-1
pn libu2f-udev <none>
ii notification-daemon 3.20.0-4
pn system-config-printer <none>
pn upower <none>

Versions of packages chromium-sandbox depends on:
ii libatomic1 9.2.1-8
ii libc6 2.29-2
ii libgcc1 1:9.2.1-8
ii libstdc++6 9.2.1-8

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