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Bug#1084202: Is it worth keeping dbix-easy-perl in Debian?
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Andreas Tille
2024-12-19 11:10:02 UTC
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Hi Perl team,

dbix-easy-perl came up as candidate for the Bug of the Day[1] today. I
think, the Perl team would be the natural place to maintain this package
and the only open bug is easy to fix. However, the Salvage team also
tries to find out whether we do our users a service with some package or
whether there is simply maintenance burden caused by some unused
package. Popcon for this package (specifically the votes!) are pretty
low and its obviously unmaitained.

If someone thinks its a good idea to salvage this package I volunteer
to do so and will create a repository in Debian Perl team.

Kind regards
Andreas.

[1] https://salsa.debian.org/tille/tiny_qa_tools/-/wikis/Tiny-QA-tasks#bug-of-the-day
[2] https://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=libdbix-easy-perl&show_installed=on&show_vote=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&from_date=&to_date=&hlght_date=&date_fmt=%25Y-%25m&beenhere=1
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gregor herrmann
2024-12-19 18:00:01 UTC
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Post by Andreas Tille
dbix-easy-perl came up as candidate for the Bug of the Day[1] today. I
think, the Perl team would be the natural place to maintain this package
and the only open bug is easy to fix. However, the Salvage team also
tries to find out whether we do our users a service with some package or
whether there is simply maintenance burden caused by some unused
package. Popcon for this package (specifically the votes!) are pretty
low and its obviously unmaitained.
If someone thinks its a good idea to salvage this package I volunteer
to do so and will create a repository in Debian Perl team.
It probably wouldn't be missed, OTOH it looks like a trivial package
with no maintenance burden in the future, so no objections against
salvaging it. If you do so please rename the source package to
libdbix-easy-perl.


Cheers,
gregor
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Andreas Tille
2024-12-19 18:50:01 UTC
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Hi Gregor,
Post by gregor herrmann
It probably wouldn't be missed, OTOH it looks like a trivial package
with no maintenance burden in the future, so no objections against
salvaging it.
Sounds sensible.
Post by gregor herrmann
If you do so please rename the source package to
libdbix-easy-perl.
I'm fine with renaming the source package. How is this actually handled?
I guess it involves binary upload to new. Do I need to inform ftpmaster
about the change?

Kind regards
Andreas.
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gregor herrmann
2024-12-20 01:00:01 UTC
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Post by gregor herrmann
If you do so please rename the source package to
libdbix-easy-perl.
I'm fine with renaming the source package. How is this actually handled?
I guess it involves binary upload to new.
Good question :)
We've done this recently, maybe (I hope so) Étienne remembers the
details.
(My vague memories say: Probably yes.)
Post by Andreas Tille
Do I need to inform ftpmaster
about the change?
No, they will find the package in NEW (or not).


Cheers,
gregor
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Étienne Mollier
2024-12-20 10:30:01 UTC
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Hi there,
Post by gregor herrmann
Post by Andreas Tille
I'm fine with renaming the source package. How is this actually handled?
I guess it involves binary upload to new.
Good question :)
We've done this recently, maybe (I hope so) Étienne remembers the
details.
(My vague memories say: Probably yes.)
I think you're after Roland Rosenfeld's answer about the package
renaming. :)

I only have been involved in a couple of dpt-takeover(1) from
pkg-perl-tools, but it's a useful command to investigate too if
you have to proceed to salvaging. I'm not sure what the best
order is, but I believe that you want to run the takeover first
and then proceed to the renaming, as otherwise the takeover
would run on a non-existing package. But on the other hand, the
package will be pushed to its perl-team salsa location with the
old name, so in any case there will be some manual handling.

Have a nice day, :)
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gregor herrmann
2024-12-20 21:50:01 UTC
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Post by Étienne Mollier
Post by gregor herrmann
We've done this recently, maybe (I hope so) Étienne remembers the
details.
(My vague memories say: Probably yes.)
I think you're after Roland Rosenfeld's answer about the package
renaming. :)
Oh, right, sorry. And thanks Roland for your reply to Andreas!
Post by Étienne Mollier
I only have been involved in a couple of dpt-takeover(1) from
pkg-perl-tools, but it's a useful command to investigate too if
you have to proceed to salvaging. I'm not sure what the best
order is, but I believe that you want to run the takeover first
and then proceed to the renaming, as otherwise the takeover
would run on a non-existing package.
Ack.
Post by Étienne Mollier
But on the other hand, the
package will be pushed to its perl-team salsa location with the
old name, so in any case there will be some manual handling.

 unless you use
"-n Local operation. The resulting Git repository is not pushed to salsa.debian.org."

:)


Cheers,
gregor
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Roland Rosenfeld
2024-12-20 10:10:01 UTC
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Hi Andreas!
Post by Andreas Tille
Post by gregor herrmann
If you do so please rename the source package to
libdbix-easy-perl.
I'm fine with renaming the source package. How is this actually handled?
I guess it involves binary upload to new. Do I need to inform ftpmaster
about the change?
I did so with net-telnet-cisco -> libnet-telnet-cisco-perl recently.
I had to go via new-queue (with source+bin upload), wait for
ftpmaster to proceed, then did a source-only upload.
The old source package was automatically removed from testing.

Finally I wrote an remove request for unstable (which is still
pending), but I'm not sure, whether this is necessary since the old
source package seems to have vanished from unstable in the meantime
(without a hint in the tracker.debian.org history).

I didn't explicitly inform ftpmaster about the change but mentioned
the source package renaming in debian/changelog.

Greetings
Roland
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