Bug#1087839: ITS: lsdvd

[Andreas Tille]

Source: lsdvd
Version: 0.17-1
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-Cc: ***@bugs.debian.org, Debian Multimedia Maintainers <debian-***@lists.debian.org>, Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) <***@debian.org>, Package Salvaging Team <team+***@tracker.debian.org>

Hi

I'm interested in salvaging your package lsdvd, in accordance with the
Package Salvaging procedure outlined in the Developers Reference[1].
Your package meets the criteria for this process, and I would love to
assist in preserving and maintaining it. As the Salvage process
suggests, here is a list of the criteria that apply, in my opinion:

- Bugs filed against the package do not have answers from the
maintainer.
- There are QA issues with the package.

I believe your package would be a great addition to the Debian
Multimedia team, and I took the liberty to create the Salsa repository
here[2]. If you choose not to accept the ITS, I'd be more than happy to
help you move it to another location, such as debian/, or wherever you
prefer. My goal is to make it as easy as possible for you to join the
team. I'd also be delighted to assist in adding you as a team member if
you could share your Salsa login.

Your package was highlighted in the Bug of the Day[3] initiative, which
aims to introduce newcomers to manageable tasks and guide them through
the workflow to solve them. The focus of this initiative is on migrating
packages to Salsa, as it's a great way to familiarize newcomers with a
consistent Git-based workflow.

Kind regards
Andreas.

[1] https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#package-salvaging
[2] https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/lsdvd
[3] https://salsa.debian.org/tille/tiny_qa_tools/-/wikis/Tiny-QA-tasks



-- System Information:
Debian Release: trixie/sid
APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (50, 'buildd-unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 6.3.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

[László Böszörményi (GCS)]

Hi Andreas,

Post by Andreas Tille
I'm interested in salvaging your package lsdvd, in accordance with the
Package Salvaging procedure outlined in the Developers Reference[1].

Feel free to move it to the Multimedia Team. It is a dead project for
more than ten years, has some working flaws and might not work with
Blu-Ray disks.
I was about to ask for its removal. But if the team has the power to
continue with its development as well, that would be good. I will
definitely not have time for it.

Regards,
Laszlo/GCS

[Andreas Tille]

Hi László,

thanks a lot for your quick answer.

Post by László Böszörményi (GCS)

Post by Andreas Tille
I'm interested in salvaging your package lsdvd, in accordance with the
Package Salvaging procedure outlined in the Developers Reference[1].

Feel free to move it to the Multimedia Team. It is a dead project for
more than ten years, has some working flaws and might not work with
Blu-Ray disks.
I was about to ask for its removal. But if the team has the power to
continue with its development as well, that would be good. I will
definitely not have time for it.

Given this information it might make sense to turn this bug into a RoQA
and request its removal. The ITS was an attempt to make it easier
accessible for potential new contributors. However, if you considered
removing yourself I can take over that step and adk ftpmaster to do so.

Kind regards
Andreas.

[László Böszörményi (GCS)]

Post by Andreas Tille
Given this information it might make sense to turn this bug into a RoQA
and request its removal. The ITS was an attempt to make it easier
accessible for potential new contributors. However, if you considered
removing yourself I can take over that step and adk ftpmaster to do so.

The reason is not public, but for six months or maybe more I will be
busy with real life. I'm going to step down from some projects I
didn't have time for a while to contribute.
I don't get how the ITS would help with potential new contributors.
Upstream has a VCS [1] already, with zero merge requests for ten
years. Other distributions have zero patch for this code (well, except
Gentoo which has an irrelevant patch [2]).
The bad is that lsdvd is not feature complete and worse that optical
discs (even Blu-Rays) are going to disappear. Making this project a
question to carry around. Sure, it will be OK for Trixie, not sure
after that. It's up to you if you can find (hope) someone to continue
with its development.

Regards,
Laszlo/GCS
[1] https://sourceforge.net/p/lsdvd/git/ci/master/tree/
[2] https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/media-video/lsdvd/files

[Andreas Tille]

Control: retitle -1 lsdvd: Will be removed after Trixie release
Thanks

Given the discussion in the bug log I think it makes sense to do an
upload by the Debian Multimedia team once. This bug should be turned
into a request for removal once Trixie is released. This is mentioned
in README.Debian.

Kind regards
Andreas.

[Diederik de Haas]

Post by Andreas Tille
Control: retitle -1 lsdvd: Will be removed after Trixie release
Thanks
Given the discussion in the bug log I think it makes sense to do an
upload by the Debian Multimedia team once. This bug should be turned
into a request for removal once Trixie is released. This is mentioned
in README.Debian.

FWIW, I'd be happy to help with package maintenance.
I'd welcome a retitle of this bug to be less scary. I know how to do that, but
it was retitled by the bug submitter, so I think it's better if they'd do it.

Cheers,
Diederik

[Petter Reinholdtsen]

[Andreas Tille in release 0.17-2]

* Add README.Debian to inform about removal past Trixie

This file reads

lsdvd for Debian
================
In https://bugs.debian.org/1087839#10 the original maintainer
It is a dead project for more than ten years, has some working flaws
and might not work with Blu-Ray disks.
I was about to ask for its removal. But if the team has the power to
continue with its development as well, that would be good. I will
definitely not have time for it.
So please assume that this package might be removed from Debian
soon in case it turns out to not serve our users well. This will
probably be the case after Trixie release.
See https://bugs.debian.org/1087839

It is worth noting that it is not a dead project, never was intended for
Blu-Ray disks and most known flaws are fixed upstream, see
<URL: https://sourceforge.net/projects/lsdvd/ >. A new release is
planed soon.

I also use lsdvd every day. :)

[Petter Reinholdtsen]

The 0.18 release was just tagged in the upstream git repository.