inasprecali
2024-05-18 09:40:01 UTC
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Dear Maintainer,
to this day, gnome-core still recommends network-manager-gnome.
While this may sound reasonable given the package names, the situation
is misleading: what network-manager-gnome offers boils down to two tools:
nm-applet and nm-connection-editor.
Now, nm-applet is, ironically, useless in a vanilla GNOME desktop with no
extensions, since GNOME hasn't had tray icon support in quite a few years,
including the gnome-core parckage in bookworm (1:43+1).
The other tool, nm-connection-editor, merely duplicates functionality
that is already present in the built-in gnome-control-center.
For these reasons, I feel that network-manager-gnome by itself is largely
unnecessary nowadays when running a GNOME desktop and should not be
installed by default (not even recommneded).
However, this raises an important point: as of now, it is technically
possible to install gnome-core without network-manager (the package
which provides the actual NetworkManager subsystem, not the
network-manager-gnome applet!) even without disabling the installation
of "Recommends" packages.
In my opinion, this is undesirable for most people, since tihs would leave you
with no way to manage connections graphically from gnome-control-center
(unless of course there are other tools installed).
Right now, if gnome-core is installed through the default apt policy of
installing recommended packages by default, network-manager-gnome is
pulled in, which then depends on network-manager, pulling it in as well.
The result is that network-manager is installed when gnome-core is installed
with its "Recommends" packages, but only because of an indirect and (in my
opinion) legacy "Recommends" relationship with network-manager-gnome and not
a proper, direct "Recommends" relationship with network-manager.
To conclude, I propose the following dependency changes (which as of now
still persist in the gnome-core package included in Sid).
1. gnome-core should not recommend network-manager-gnome. Remove it from
"Recommends".
1. gnome-core *should* recommend network-manager. Include it in
"Recommends".
Thank you for your time.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: 12.5
APT prefers stable-updates
APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable-security'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386
Kernel: Linux 6.1.0-21-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=it_IT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=it_IT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled
Versions of packages gnome-core depends on:
ii adwaita-icon-theme 43-1
ii at-spi2-core 2.46.0-5
ii baobab 43.0-1
ii dconf-cli 0.40.0-4
ii dconf-gsettings-backend 0.40.0-4
ii eog 43.2-1
ii evince 43.1-2+b1
ii evolution-data-server 3.46.4-2
ii fonts-cantarell 0.303.1-1
ii gdm3 43.0-3
ii gkbd-capplet 3.28.1-1
ii glib-networking 2.74.0-4
ii gnome-backgrounds 43.1-1
ii gnome-bluetooth-sendto 42.5-3
ii gnome-calculator 1:43.0.1-2
ii gnome-characters 43.1-1+deb12u1
ii gnome-console 43.0-2
ii gnome-contacts 43.1-1
ii gnome-control-center 1:43.6-2~deb12u1
ii gnome-disk-utility 43.0-1
ii gnome-font-viewer 43.0-1
ii gnome-keyring 42.1-1+b2
ii gnome-logs 43.0-1
ii gnome-menus 3.36.0-1.1
ii gnome-online-accounts 3.46.0-1
ii gnome-session 43.0-1+deb12u1
ii gnome-settings-daemon 43.0-4
ii gnome-shell 43.9-0+deb12u2
ii gnome-shell-extensions 43.1-1
ii gnome-software 43.5-1~deb12u1
ii gnome-sushi 43.0-2
ii gnome-system-monitor 42.0-2
ii gnome-text-editor 43.2-1
ii gnome-themes-extra 3.28-2
ii gnome-user-docs 43.0-2
ii gnome-user-share 43.0-1
ii gsettings-desktop-schemas 43.0-1
ii gstreamer1.0-packagekit 1.2.6-5
ii gstreamer1.0-plugins-base 1.22.0-3+deb12u1
ii gstreamer1.0-plugins-good 1.22.0-5+deb12u1
ii gvfs-backends 1.50.3-1
ii gvfs-fuse 1.50.3-1
ii libatk-adaptor 2.46.0-5
ii libcanberra-pulse 0.30-10
ii libglib2.0-bin 2.74.6-2+deb12u2
ii libpam-gnome-keyring 42.1-1+b2
ii libproxy1-plugin-gsettings 0.4.18-1.2
ii libproxy1-plugin-webkit 0.4.18-1.2
ii librsvg2-common 2.54.7+dfsg-1~deb12u1
ii nautilus 43.2-1
ii pipewire-audio 0.3.65-3+deb12u1
ii sound-theme-freedesktop 0.8-2
ii system-config-printer-common 1.5.18-1
ii system-config-printer-udev 1.5.18-1
ii totem 43.0-2
ii tracker 3.4.2-1
ii xdg-desktop-portal-gnome 43.1-2
ii yelp 42.2-1
ii zenity 3.44.0-1
Versions of packages gnome-core recommends:
ii chromium [gnome-www-browser] 125.0.6422.60-1~deb12u1
ii firefox-esr [gnome-www-browser] 115.11.0esr-1~deb12u1
pn libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager <none>
pn low-memory-monitor <none>
pn network-manager-gnome <none>
Versions of packages gnome-core suggests:
pn gnome <none>
-- no debconf information